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Subject: Fireworks 2020 Date: 07/02/2020 Author: Last Reply Date: Last Reply By: Chelsea
Are there any fireworks this year?

Reply by: Chelsea
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Yes July 3rd (tonight) rain date the 5th

Subject: Fireworks Date: 07/03/2020 Author: Last Reply Date: Last Reply By:
Are the fireworks still on for tonight

Subject: swimming Date: 06/29/2020 Author: TrevaLast Reply Date: Last Reply By: Fred
Is Joes Pond public beach open for swimming for the 2020 summer season?

Reply by: Fred
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Hi Treva, I contacted someone on the beach committee. Yes the Joe's Pond public beach is open for swimming for the 2020 summer season. Water samples are taken weekly to insure water quality. No life guard on duty so swim at your own risk. See Wendy's comment below to see info on toilets and social distancing.

Subject: Photographer in the Area Date: 06/30/2020 Author: FredLast Reply Date: Last Reply By:
Andrea Carbonneau (formerly of W. Shore Rd.) contacted us about her friend, Jay Kennedy, who is doing a photo project that will hopefully result in a "coffee table book" featuring black and white photos. Jay will be in the Joe's Pond area on July 4th and 5th, and will likely knock on your door if you live here at the pond. Andrea and Jay asked us to let people know he will be in the area this weekend. He is an independent professional and is not connected to Joe's Pond Association in any way. The Joe's Pond website and this blog are merely conduits for the information so you will not be surprised by his visit and perhaps even have gathered more family to participate, knowing he will be stopping by.

Subject: Loon Chick Date: 06/27/2020 Author: Jane BrownLast Reply Date: Last Reply By:
We have one loon chick this morning at the north end of the big pond. Boaters, please be extra watchful and give the loons plenty of space. Slow down when you are in the area of the islands, as that is where they are most likely to be while the chick is very young. Thank you. Photo by Gretchen Farnsworth.

Loon Chick

Subject: Rentals for cabins week or few days week of 8/1 Date: 06/26/2020 Author: BobLast Reply Date: Last Reply By:

Subject: Question about day visiting Date: 06/20/2020 Author: WendyLast Reply Date: Last Reply By: Wendy Geller
Hello Joe's Pond Community,
I was wondering if there was any guidance about making a day visit to the area for a picnic near the water. We're coming from Montpelier and I'm conscious there might be additional guidelines or restrictions at the moment. Any advice would be very helpful. Thanks for you time and hope everyone is staying safe and well.

Reply by: Fred
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Hi Wendy,

I contacted a member of the beach committee. She said that because of the Coronavirus there are no portable toilets at the beach at this time. They are also expecting beach goers to use social distancing. I don't know of further restrictions at Joe's Pond.

Reply by: Wendy Geller
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Thank you! Take care and hope everyone stays safe and well.

Subject: JPA Board Meeting Date: 06/20/2020 Author: Joe Hebert, Priesident, JPALast Reply Date: Last Reply By:
JPA Board Meeting

The Board of Directors held a meeting on June 20th

and made the following decisions:

Due to current restrictions related to Covid 19 we have elected to cancel all remaining social events
related to JPA for the remainder of the summer.

We HOPE to POSSIBLY have a fall meeting sometime in late August or over Labor Day depending
on the State recommendations at that time. If so we would encourage social distancing and the use of

We also would like to consider a members only social gathering at the pavilion in late August but
again dependent on current recommendations.

The sailboat races and fireworks will continue as planned.

Only one pavilion rental is currently scheduled in mid August and that may require cancellation.
No additional rentals are being considered at this time.

The tennis/pickleball courts remain open for use.

The Board will be meeting again on July 25 to consider any changes in our position and to further
evaluate the situation for possible August events.

Please feel free to contact me or any other board member if you have any questions or suggestions.

Joe Hebert

Subject: Loons Date: 06/19/2020 Author: Suzanne MaslandLast Reply Date: Last Reply By:
Does anyone know if the loons had a baby yet? And, if so what pond?

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Haven't seen any. We are on the North end of the pond where we have two adults until late spring. They tend to disappear as soon as the motor boats and (especially) when the jetskis show up. Sometimes they will come back out when it's quiet. I expect they are hiding back up Joe's Brook.

Subject: Couch- Free! Date: 06/18/2020 Author: Jack LaGueLast Reply Date: Last Reply By:
Good camp couch available for free. Contact or call 802 476 4505.

Subject: Free bunk beds Date: 06/15/2020 Author: Angela BLast Reply Date: Last Reply By: Angela
Bunk beds that came with camp- Free

Reply by: Angela
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Forgot to add phone number 802-922-0781

Subject: Camp/cabin 4 sale? Date: 06/14/2020 Author: Cindy RugglesLast Reply Date: Last Reply By:
Hi, we are looking for a cabin or camp for sale on Rte 15 side of pond. No less than 2 bedroom. Any info is appreciated. 802-633-3932. Thanks

Subject: Fireworks watching Date: 06/23/2019 Author: Brian SullivanLast Reply Date: Last Reply By: Fred
I am trying to figure out the best place to watch the fireworks this year.

Reply by: Fred
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We know the village of W Danville (the beach area) is not a good place to watch from. Probably on the water in a boat is best. The fireworks are at the northeast end of the pond, so probably one of those roads off Rte 15, like Davidson Drive, if you can find a parking space, would be good. I think you had asked this question some time ago, and thank you for asking it again.

Reply by: Fred
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The fireworks are on the 3rd this year.

Subject: Private Road Date: 06/08/2020 Author: Susan Rousse-LagueLast Reply Date: Last Reply By:
I just wanted to remind people that Meadow Lane ( off from West Shore Rd) is a private road and really a dead end. My driveway is not a continuation of Meadow Lane but private property and my backyard. It's really all the residents' back yard since everyone owns a portion of the road but we all have right of way. Lately there have been people and some cars passing through that don't live here or visiting. I would appreciate it if people, especially with dogs, avoid walking through and especially going up my driveway. I will be having a young dog in my yard, mostly on a run, and I'd like to avoid any issues. Thanks for your consideration.

Subject: Life vest found Date: 06/05/2020 Author: Linda LivendaleLast Reply Date: Last Reply By:
We found an O’Neill black life vest, size medium on the 3rd pond. We have it at our camp on the 2nd pond. Contact us to pick up 802-272-6564

Subject: For sale Date: 06/01/2020 Author: Cindy DuBoisLast Reply Date: Last Reply By:
Barely used paddle boat!

Subject: Found Navy youth down jacket Date: 05/30/2020 Author: Sue BraultLast Reply Date: Last Reply By:
Found a Youth Navy down jacket in the water with the name Charlie. Its now hanging on my dock at Camp Old Joe. We are the blue camp with the white porch near the fishing access. If yours come pick up.

Subject: Rentals Date: 05/23/2020 Author: Last Reply Date: Last Reply By: Fred
After studying the quarantine requirements in Vermont, how do the 1 week rentals work? People rent for a week of vacation but cannot go,out for a walk, a hike or a bike ride? Why would anyone rent?

Reply by: Fred
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This was in the Burlington Free Press on 5/19, and it seems to confirm what you have said:

"According to the Health Department, people must stay inside their home and away from others for 14 days if they believe they were exposed to a person with COVID-19 or if they have recently come to Vermont from outside the state.

Department guidance says that people in quarantine cannot:

Go to work.
Go outside for walks, bike rides or hikes.
Go out for groceries or other essential items.

People in quarantine must also try to stay in a separate room of their home from others, if possible, the Health Department guidance said." I see your point.

Subject: Ice Out Date: 05/20/2020 Author: Martin SchambergerLast Reply Date: Last Reply By: Fred
What was the winning date and time? Thanks!

Reply by: Fred
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Hi Martin,

The ice went out at at 6:07 am on April 15th. There were two winners who both guessed 6:05 am.

Thank you for the question.

Subject: Piece of Aluminum Dock Date: 05/19/2020 Author: Sheila CalevroLast Reply Date: Last Reply By:
We are missing a piece of our aluminum dock. May have flowed out with high water. Please contact Sheila Calvero at 802-249-2757. Barre Avenue.

Subject: Spring Meeting and Other Events Date: 05/16/2020 Author: Joe HebertLast Reply Date: Last Reply By:
The JPA Board of Directors met today and as expected because of the Covid 19 pandemic and the
State of Vermont recommendations, we decided to cancel the spring meeting scheduled for May 23rd
Additionally the Pitch Tournament on June 20 was also canceled. The Sunfish sailing workshop, sailboat
races and July 4th

fireworks will proceed as scheduled. The tennis courts will be available for use with

social distancing recommended when feasible.
Although it is problematic if the other social events and meetings can be held as scheduled, the Board
elected to defer any further cancellations at this time. As we are all aware this is an extremely fluid
situation, and we anticipate final decisions will be made approximately two weeks before any events.
Please feel free to contact me or any other board member if you have any questions or comments.

Joe Hebert,
President, Joes Pond Association

Subject: JPA Spring Meeting Date: 05/15/2020 Author: Steve & Bev AllenLast Reply Date: Last Reply By: Joe Hebert
Will the Spring Meeting still be held on the 23rd? Governor Scott has said no meetings larger than 10 people and social distancing must still be observed which might make the JPA Schedule out of bounds...

Reply by: Joe Hebert
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The meeting has been canceled. Decisions about future events and meetings will be made later

Subject: 8:00 am 04/29/20 Date: 04/29/2020 Author: Jeff HaleLast Reply Date: Last Reply By: Fred
My guess on ticket # 7,432 was 04/15/20 11:15 am.

Reply by: Fred
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This guess is close but not the closest. Please take a look at the ice out page.


Subject: I can’t find my dates I picked Date: 04/23/2020 Author: ErinLast Reply Date: Last Reply By: Fred
Will you notify the two winners even if they don’t contact you?

Reply by: Fred
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Hi Erin,

Would you email me at Did you buy your tickets online?

Yes, we do contact the winner(s).


Subject: Thanks for the webinar Date: 04/22/2020 Author: Dorothea PenarLast Reply Date: Last Reply By:
I really enjoyed watching the webinar on natural shorelands. I hope everyone takes the time to view the webinar. It takes everyone on the Pond to help keep our water clean.

Subject: Ice out location Date: 04/18/2020 Author: Doug HamiltonLast Reply Date: Last Reply By: Jack LaGue
Seems like a new location for the block is in order.It was obvious to many of us why the TV coverage was not at the block location as it would have been obvious that the ice was a long way from being gone.It would be so easy to do it right and locate the block in a different part of the lake like in the cove near the rec.area.The rail trail goes by there and a lot of people would see it when using the trail.If we can make it better,we should at least give it a shot!

Reply by: Suzanne Masland
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I like that idea! I have found the ice out disappointing in the last few years. I know it has its value and many people appreciate it, but it feels odd for the "ice out" to happen when we then see the ice for another week at least. This is not to criticize all the folks who worked so hard to move the site and put it out each year.

Reply by: Jack LaGue
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There has always been ice still on the pond when the block drops. In my experience when we were living on he pond full-time, most years it takes 24-48 hours from when the clock stops until the pond is mostly free of ice.

There were different problems with the location on the south shore. Many years the clock stopped because a large piece of ice drifted away from the shore and severed the connection to the clock but the flag could still be seen and much of the pond to the north of the flag was free of ice.

While I'm not opposed to another location, any alternative location would need to have electricity readily available and preferably someone there regularly to keep an eye on the setup. Given the number of people who are right on the main pond in April it narrows the potential locations.

But no matter what, the bet is on when the connection to the clock is severed, whether it is because the block drops through the ice or the ice moves away from shore or whatever. If people are troubled that the game isn't perfect then they can choose not to play.... it is just for fun after all.

Subject: block placement Date: 04/20/2020 Author: Last Reply Date: Last Reply By: Joe Hebert
is block still placed on a pallet?

Reply by: Diane Rossi
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Yes. Still on a pallet

Reply by: Joe Hebert
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Yes, according to Larry Rossi who places the block each year. It is on a pallet similar to what was used for several years at Homer Fitts camp.

Subject: Ice Out Date: 04/17/2020 Author: PamelaLast Reply Date: Last Reply By: Bill
Just wondering if we could look at a different location or readjust when the block is placed.
It seems rather troublesome to me that the past 2 ice outs happen when the ice isn’t remotely out. It’s still quite white and fairly solid.

I have had a number of local people ask why the ice went out but it didn’t.

Not sure exactly what the differences where but when it was placed at Fitts’ it seemed more ice was gone. Granted there were issues with the location for sure there, but I think we can do a better job. Maybe talk to the people who have done it previously?? Maybe have it as a topic at the Annual Meeting?

Just wondering...

Seems like now we are voting on when the clock will stop but not when the ice is out.

Just a suggestion.

Reply by: Diane Rossi
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You are right. We need a rocket scientist on this. Someone who can analyze the layers of ice that have been laid down over the course of a crazy VT winter. Someone who can accurately predict wind, temperature and sunshine during the crucial final weeks. Someone who can design and build a foolproof block and pallet that will not sink like a rock as soon as the ice turns to mush, or float around out there forever. Keeping the snowmobiles off the line, and the power on at all times are separate issues altogether. But no one is obligated to participate, and there are thousands of people having fun with this as well as someone getting a nice check and the JPA making enough money to help with fireworks that make people smile. We keep trying, but we often get it wrong. Especially now, with so much sadness and death, I think it's all worth it.

Reply by: Joe Hebert
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While we acknowledge there is no one ideal spot for locating the block certainly alternatives can be considered. We can have an open discussion at our annual meeting but I would suggest the writer and other interested parties investigate other possible sites.

Reply by: Bill
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Just because you can still ice fish when a winner is declared is no need to question the establishment.

Subject: Ice out Date: 04/12/2020 Author: Last Reply Date: Last Reply By: Fred
Just curious update on ice

Reply by: Fred
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We were asked this question on April 10. Here is what one of our committee member said:

I am on the ice out committee and live on the pond. It is really hard to tell what is going on with the ice. It seems fairly solid, but I have not seen anyone walking on it for the past week or so. There is a little open water where the springs feed the pond and very little around the edges of the big pond.


Subject: web cam Date: 04/02/2020 Author: Last Reply Date: Last Reply By: Fred
Is there a web cam?

Reply by: Fred
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No, we don't have webcam.

Subject: Will Do Odd Jobs Date: 02/10/2020 Author: Eugene DavisLast Reply Date: Last Reply By:
Call 802-473-6257. Will do odd jobs like shoveling roofs, etc. Eugene Davis, Roy Road, Danville.

Subject: June to Sep. rental wanted Date: 01/12/2020 Author: Matthew BurakLast Reply Date: Last Reply By:
Local couple in between houses would like camp on lake for the summer. We can be gone a portion of stay to give owners camp time. Willing to handle property management issues that might arise, as well as do minor repairs or grounds keeping. We will leave your camp better than we found it.
Old world charm and location matters most to us. TVs and modern appliances not so much.
Contact: Cindy 802-274-1122 Matthew 802-274-3352

Subject: Cyanobacteria bloom Date: 10/02/2019 Author: Dorothea PenarLast Reply Date: Last Reply By:
We had another small bloom of cyanobacteria in the Narrows cove area. It was of a limited size, but lasted most of the day last Friday. Given that the water is significantly colder and many of the camps are not occupied, I think the heavy rains we had last Wednesday and Thursday maybe a significant factor in causing the bloom.
Please be aware that storm water runoff brings a lot of nutrients to the pond on all slopes, so avoid fertilizing lawns, avoid clearing the natural vegetation along the shore, and keep the upland trees as much as possible.

Subject: Boat Winterizing/Storing Date: 09/12/2019 Author: Kyle JohnsonLast Reply Date: Last Reply By:
Fellow Joes Ponders, I now have cleared out land ready for a bunch of boats to be stored over winter! I am winterizing and shrink wrapping any boats out there. Let me know if anyone wants me to take their boats out and put back in for the spring! Call me at 802-535-6735.

Subject: Statement From JPA President Hebert Date: 07/15/2019 Author: FredLast Reply Date: Last Reply By:
Statement issued today by President Hebert:

"I want to thank everyone for their concerns and comments in the last 10 days regarding boater safety issues on the pond. Hopefully through this open dialog we will all become more conscious of the appropriate rules, regulations, and more respectful of our neighbors and the environment.
Unfortunately we continue to hear of ongoing issues. Most recently there have been reports of jet skis operating close to shore in the boat access area. If you have a concern the Vermont State Police is the agency that deals with boating safety complaints. The local number is 748-3111. I spoke with them today and was informed that obtaining information such as boat type, color or especially a registration number would greatly facilitate their investigation. Lets all continue to be a bit more considerate and try to minimize this situation.

Joe Hebert
President, JPA

July 04, 2020
07:30 PM